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The Pope Insults Islam: Blame it on the Jews

Awhile back I wrote a couple of articles on the Pope's speech that seemed to be insulting to Islam, quoting a Byzantine Emperor's statement that Islam was wrong to use violence in the name of religion. This generated some discussion regarding what the Pope's intent was and whether Muslims should be angry or not. All agreed that the violence that the Pope's statement inspired among some Muslims was uncalled for and, quite honestly, a bit crazy. But I maintain that the Pope should have made it much clearer that he did not agree with the Byzantine Emperor's statement after he had quoted that Emperor.

However, we are finally coming to what we all knew would happen: Muslim newspapers around the world are blaming Jews for the Pope's statement. Yes... even though many Jews around the world condemned the Pope's statement as being anti-Islam and inflamatory, Muslims are blaming it on Jews. Even though my source for the controversy was a conservative Israeli news source that was critical of the Pope, clearly it is all the fault of the Jews.

From the Anti-Defamation League

Arab/Muslim Media Allege Jewish Conspiracy Behind Pope' Comments
New York, NY, September 19, 2006 (new cartoon added 9/22/06) -- Cartoons and editorials published in newspapers in the Arab/Muslim world falsely portray Jews as the manipulators behind Pope Benedict XVI and his speech at a German university on the theological need for faith and reason, according to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL)...


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The Pope and the Muslims

Last week I reported an incident where it sounded a lot like the Pope was calling Islam "inhuman and diabolical" and comparing it unfavorably with the more reasoned and peaceful Christianity. My original source was an Israeli news source which interpreted the remarks of the Pope similar to the way many Muslims around the world were interpreting them.

Many wrote to defend the Pope's comments as quoting a Byzantine Emperor's remarks not as his own, as advocating reason, not violence, and not being hostile to Islam. The people who defended the Pope's comments are people I respect and in all honesty I tried seeing it their way. I couldn't. No matter how I read the Pope's comments I couldn't see them as being in any way disagreeing with the Byzantine Emperor's comments. That Emperor's comments were critical of Islam for spreading its faith by the sword and the Pope was arguing that religion should not be spread by the sword but rather by reason. This Jesuit-like argument is fine in itself, but my reading of the Pope's comments still sounded like he was saying Islam is a backwards, evil religion because it inherently spreads its faith by violence while the more enlightened Christianity doesn't. I still feel that the Pope's speech was insulting to Islam.


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Those Damned Muslims!

Is it just me or does the West just not get it when it comes to Islam. I remember thinking Bush was incredibly stupid when he called the fight against al-Qaeda a "crusade," a word BOUND to inflame tensions with Muslims. Now the Pope says something even worse.

I mean, I am Jewish and pro-Israel, but even I am well aware that if you go around saying bad things about Mohammed you are going to piss off a lot of people. I fell pretty solidly on the side of freedom of the press when it came to the Danish cartoons and thought the Muslim reaction was unfounded. But the Pope has just been inexcusably rude to Islam and thinks a half assed apology will suffice.

From Guysen Israël News:

Pope Benedict XVI "sincerely regrets" his comments deemed offensive by Muslims. The Pope is sorry that his speech was misinterpreted and hopes that the "true spirit" of his comments will be understood. The Holy Father had said in his speech, "Show me something new that Mohammed brought and you will find only inhuman and diabolical things, such as his order to spread his faith by the sword." The Vatican press release did not however go as far as to make an apology in the name of the Pope.

Um, so just what WAS the "true spirit" of calling Mohammed's teaching "inhuman and diabolical?"


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See...Jesus WAS Black

fresh (just a day later!) from the Associated Press:


Workers discover chocolate Virgin Mary
Drippings beneath vat at chocolatier bear resemblance to mother of Jesus
IMAGE: Chocolate Virgin Mary
Nick Ut / AP

FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif. - As a chocolatier to the rich and famous, Martucci Angiano has posed with many celebrities — but on Thursday she held in her hand a figure that dazzles her more than any Hollywood star.

Workers at Angiano's gourmet chocolate company, Bodega Chocolates, discovered under a vat a 2-inch-tall column of chocolate drippings that they believe bears a striking resemblance to the Virgin Mary.

Since the discovery Monday, Angiano's employees have spent much of their time hovering over the tiny figure, praying and placing rose petals and candles around it.

"I was raised to believe in the Virgin Mary, but this still gives me the chills," Angiano said as she balanced the dark brown figure in her hand. "Everyone should see this."

Kitchen worker Cruz Jacinto was the first to spot the lump of melted chocolate when she began her shift Monday cleaning up drippings that had accumulated under a large vat of dark chocolate.


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Senator Sam Ervin (NC): No school prayer

"A school prayer amendment would confer upon public school boards a power the First Amendment now denies to Congress and the states, that is, the power to establish religion."


— -- Sam Ervin, Preserving the Constitution (1984), quoted from Albert J. Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom


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Hey Mel, I too was an anti-semite


Separated at Hate?

I grew up in a family obsessed with religion. My mom and dad practiced everything : catholicism, santeria, espiritismo. Yet they made sure we went to a catholic school with strong theology and catechism curricula and, if possible, went once a week to church.

Twelve years of that my friends; which is why I am now an atheist --and I don't digress.

You see, conservative catholic Puerto Rican culture primes its 'devotees' into being blindingly anti-semitic.

Jews killed Jesus after all.

And the more connected that culture is to the "madre patria" or Spain, the more ... let's say ... ahem ... obliviously hateful it is.

For example, when I was a kid I was called la judía because I liked to hoard my allowance and be the bank when playing Monopoly. Yes people, having a fascination with finances made me a Jew.

Judy Farber has a fantastic list of assumptions about Jews that she's come across all her life. She is so dead on it's scary. I too believed Jews only did it through a sheet or that Jews made for better hagglers ... 'cause, you know, that money thing.


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Getting biblical with The Brick Testament


[via The Brick Testament]
It's the Bible on LEGOS.

That's right. Reenactments of the Bible using LEGOS building blocks. A total drug-free trip. Totally whacked out and awesome.


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How in the name of reason is a forced pregnancy the liberation of a fetus and not the reproductive enslavement of a woman?

I bring your attention to this coprolite devoid of judicial, legal and philosophical reason :

[via Catholic Online]:

I end by using the expression, "Free State" with great intentionality. At another critical time in our Nations history another evil was once "sanctioned" by the Supreme Court, the "owning" of human beings as property. The Court was wrong then it is wrong now. For a while, some States were "Free States" and some were "Slave States." After Roe is overturned, that will probably occur once again. Our work will not be over with the coming demise of Roe v. Wade, it only begins. Our goal is not simply to expose and oppose the current anti-culture of death; it is to build a new culture of life, and a civilization of love to replace it.

GoogleNews and Yahoo!News have decided that no feminist blogs will be rotated as part of their sources covering abortion and reproductive rights while fascist Catholic crap like this gets promoted by them as newsworthy. Which is why, all I get on my GoogleNews alerts are anti-choice, dominionist "news sources" on the topic of abotion like Catholic.org. And all I get to read ... oh, yipee ... is stupidity like the one quoted here.


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