I believe we should focus our efforts first and foremost against those who attacked us on September 11 and who have thus far gotten away with it. the vast majority of those who sponsored, planned and implemented the cold-blooded murder of more than 3000 Americans are still at large, still neither located, nor apprehended, much less punished and neutralized. I do not believe that we should allow ourselves to be distracted from this urgent task simply because it is proving to be more diffucult and lengthy than was predicted. Great nations persevere and then prevail...
I believe that we are perfectly capanle of staying the course in the war against Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, while simultaneously taking the steps necessary to build an international coalition to join us in taking on Saddam Hussein in a timely fashion. If you're going after Jesse James, you ought to organize your posse first. Especially if you're already in the middle of a gunfight with somebody who's out after you.
— Al Gore in 2002...shortly before Bush invaded Iraq
Well...
I came across this a day or so ago and, though a bit perturbed, was just going to leave it as is - but it's continued to bother me, so I'll just add a little commentary.
I understand that the above comments might possibly have been in the nature of "see, I can generalize about an entire group, too", as it sort of seems, from one of the comments - still the impression is left... by a "managing editor", no less! (as we can see from the "So Educational!" comment - and reply) that this is a generalization with a large measure of truth to it.
I strongly disagree.
I don't know Francis, nor do I share his love for Hillary, but I've been a visitor to daily kos since about early 2003 and, like many Black folks and other folks of color, decided fairly early on that it was a pretty hostile place to people of color. More so in the run-up to the 2004 election, and afterwards it didn't get much better. And while there are indeed some Black people who are religious and/or virulently anti-gay (I don't personally know any that are anti-gay, but am going by the polls and people's personal anecdotes), there are also a great many who are not.
While the attitude of some towards gays may inform their participation in mostly White political communities - as is possibly the case with the vastly more vocal and numerous anti-gay White folks - I believe there are far more who are/were put off by seeing (especially at daily kos) almost every day diaries with "n****r" spelled out in the titles or text - and attacks against people who complained as being "PC". (I mentioned a while back to a few friends that in my almost 50 years, I'd never seen that word so much as I had on that White liberal site and I have no idea why there is such love for that word there.)
Or writing on issues such as economic justice, or social justice, and either being completely ignored (as with most diaries dealing with non-White people written by non-White people), and having the White "progressives" (or liberals, as they were known at the time) swarm in, screeching about handouts and welfare queens and every other right wing trope dealing with racial issues, time after time after time. Most non-White folks just decided to shake the dust of kos (and other like sites) off their feet and move on.
Yearly kos had its own issues, as well... someone posted a diary after the speakers for the first convention were announced after noticing that, in all the convention programming, not one Black person had been slated as a speaker (this person was, of course, attacked for making the observation, but there was also a conversation had about it).
Plenty of other stuff - as many of the Black folks who stuck it out there, such as fabooj - whose friends and family, she has said, cannot figure out why she posts on such a racist site - can affirm. I'm not going to get into all the things, as this isn't kos, but I just wanted to make sure that that "Black people don't participate in White liberal/progressive sites because they hate gay people" tripe was not left to sit here unopposed by anyone except Francis Holland.