rwallnerny2007's picture

What are you talking about?

There were separate events in the same area. One was in a church where Obama was addressing a bunch of church-goers and spoke of his beliefs. The other was on the Pettus Bridge, the site of the historic Selma voting rights march. There is nothing inconsistent in saying that it was logical for Obama to be preaching while in church, if he is a religous man, and that Edwards ought IMO to have appeared for the march on the bridge. I am all for separation of church and state, but if a candidate who is a christian is invited to preach in a church, what is the big deal?

Don't you understand that a big problem the Democrats have had is the false perception Republicans put across in general elections that one party respects religion in peoples' lives and the other does not. If Democratic candidates are not to get near a church with a ten foot pole and say a word about the bible, or even their own beliefs lest it be a violation of separation of church and state, how do you fight that kind of perception? Also black communities/culture are still more church and religion-driven now than many white communities are anymore, that is just a fact. Historically, african americans haven't had much reason to trust the government, so the institution they hold more belief in is their local church. So when you court the black vote, you go to church and pay your respects. You don't have to believe what they, or any christian believes, but you better show up there and respect their institutions. That is all Obama and Hillary were doing.

Yet you blast Obama for going there. What, you think he should have stood outside the church, a good fifty feet away, and handed out leaflets? Obama is not saying he wants a theocracy. He is saying we do not get anywhere by disrespecting, as opposed to embracing the beliefs people have. If he doesn't go to a black church in Selma, its like you'd feel if he didn't come to your state. You'd say "What's he saying, we're a backwater full of hicks?" You'd feel disrespected. Those people in that church feel the same way about their church as you do about being southern. It is a part of who they are, and they want it respected. Just as you don't want your heritage or area of the country put down by northerners.

Obama was saying he respects them, and that their beliefs can be part of his larger message, just as your beliefs can be part of that message too. A good campaign should be like making a quilt, getting patches of fabric from the different parts of the community and making it into one thing that represents us all. Obama is a universalist (read his first book), he believes we are all part of a great whole, like this giant quilt. He wants you to be a part of that quilt. He wants that church and the church goers in Selma to be part of that quilt. When that quilt is put together, we all share equally in it. I wanted Obama to go to that church, and I want him to appear at an ACLU event and a NOW event and at rallies of atheists and agnostics. I don't want him to give more weight to those church-goers in Selma than me, but I don't want him to give them less either. You should want him to go to them and give them respect, just as you want to be shown that same respect yourself. And you should not fear it when he shows respect to others. You should embrace it.


Reply

The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly.
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.
  • You may link to webpages through the weblinks registry
  • Web and e-mail addresses are automatically converted into links.
  • Textual smileys will be replaced with graphical ones.
  • Easily link to terms in various wikis. For help, see interwiki.
  • Images can be added to this post.
More information about formatting options

Visit our sponsors

Fill up our coffee fund

BlogAds

Visit our sponsors

Get our Digestifs du jour

Nibble daily on our brainy goodness with our daily syndication digest. You'll receive an email with a list and links to the previous day's posts.



Powered by FeedBlitz

culturekitchens

The Publisher
Liza Sabater

Daily servings of political dissent
culturekitchen

Grassroots News and
Activism for New Yorkers

Daily Gotham

Feminist Bloggers
Network

BlogSheroes

A new kind of vouyerism
Voogling

Art + Code + Philosophy
Potatoland.blog

Got any dirt, tips, leads or money for us? Then drop us a line or two at editors [at] culturekitchen [dot] com or use our general contact form to reach everybody in the editorial team ASAP.


Member's articles and stories

More stories

Who's online

There are currently 2 users and 1901 guests online.

Online users

Words to live by

I believe we should focus our efforts first and foremost against those who attacked us on September 11 and who have thus far gotten away with it. the vast majority of those who sponsored, planned and implemented the cold-blooded murder of more than 3000 Americans are still at large, still neither located, nor apprehended, much less punished and neutralized. I do not believe that we should allow ourselves to be distracted from this urgent task simply because it is proving to be more diffucult and lengthy than was predicted. Great nations persevere and then prevail...

I believe that we are perfectly capanle of staying the course in the war against Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, while simultaneously taking the steps necessary to build an international coalition to join us in taking on Saddam Hussein in a timely fashion. If you're going after Jesse James, you ought to organize your posse first. Especially if you're already in the middle of a gunfight with somebody who's out after you.


— Al Gore in 2002...shortly before Bush invaded Iraq


Subscribe Buttons

Feed IconGoogleDeliciousYahoo!BloglinesNewsgatorMSNFeedsterAOLFurlRojoNewsburstPluckFeedFeedsAdd KinjaMultiRSSrMailRSSFwdBlogarithmSimplify