i came across the FDL post and thought, what the hell, i'll post a comment. i never post comments in the "big" blogs because there are usually hundreds, and most of them aren't really worth reading. but Jane Hamsher was replying to a number of them in her post on Liza, so i gave it a try:

i’m not exactly sure why this post is necessary. as it happens, Liza can actually be reached and spoken to personally. imagine. some people, when attacked in a manner they think unfair, by someone who is actually seeking the same goals (2 minutes at her website proves that), would keep it private. in the spirit of seeking a better community, they’d find out what brought on the original attack and try to find a positive resolution. you don’t indicate you tried that; you don’t approve of talking to people first? of privately making your points and giving her a chance to retract? you may be in the right in terms of the access you give to a diverse group of writers, but this post is pure 8th grade. very disappointing.

but i’m sure the neocon lurkers enjoyed it.

and Jane deemed it worthy of this reply:

You apply a yardstick to one you don’t apply to the other. Liza didn’t even bother to verify the factual accuracy of her assertions, let alone privately communicate her concerns.

Our neocon lurkers no doubt recognize themselves in your logic.

to which my final reply was:

ah, i get it: “she did it, so i’ll do it, too.”

and that's the gist of it in FDL re: Liza. Jane Hamsher, blogging superstar, knows nothing about Liza, less than i do (and i know little), but she deems her worthy of national attack. she's so dedicated to this attack, she's still replying into the 400s. wow.

i don't know if she is full of herself, a true believer, or really thinks Liza is doing harm to the cause. i don't know her at all, but i'm not going to waste my time with FDL anymore. her reply to me just is too immature. and her sycophantic commenters are pretty awaful, too; one guy went to a lot of trouble to prove, in a phony academic style, what a loser Liza is. i know two things about Liza: she has been involved in the things she critiqued in her original post; and she's beloved of Lynn, and that's good enough for me.

but mostly, Jane Hamsher is acting like a child. we have enough of that in DC without lefties making it worse.