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Saying ALL scientsist is agee LIKE saying ALL anything...

There is some sort of insecurity driven need to over emphasize agreement to one's own personal position. With all due respect, Mr. Gore likes to use the word "ALL" a little too often when making his case too.

I can't see why folks need to discredit an imagined differing view point if 100% agreement isn't assumed. Funny that in a lot of cases more agreement than guessed is just beneath the surface, but jumping to conclusions prohibited any real opportunity for "productive" discussion.

I was fortunate enough to learn from a "Real" insider that the climate in Antarctica cooling over all, and separately research shows the land based ice pack there is growing. This "Real Insider" information is fresh as of 12 months ago, of course "WE ALL" need to be willing to modify our understanding as "NEW" information "comes to light". I find it amusing that few of the "REAL" insiders seem to mention that if EVERY non-land based ice shelf at both the North and South Poles melt tomorrow, there will be more or less ZERO impact on sea level as they are already floating. We would of course have to have an informed conversation about ocean salinity and temperature stratification and potential impacts on weather and climate. I also find it amusing that the "REAL" insiders never mention the ratio of land based ice mass of Antarctica to everywhere else. It would be amusing if "ALL" the information was presented by the mainstream media so regular folks had a chance to participate in the conversation from an informed point of view instead of from non-science based media slide-shows with very little cited reference material.

I also find it amusing the Vinyl Siding Industries are still doing so well, given the history of climate change and the significant changes we already see.

One way to "pick up on a debaters" position strength is to see how fast they resort to insult, use of over the top "hype" type words, and use alignment with peers as validation methods, instead of just calmly staying focused on the material at hand.

(Welcome to your first day or two in the community Teach, and thank you for sharing your opinions and observations).


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