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Ah yes...

More of your polite objectivity.

I merely gave your background on Hansen and some links to groups handling scientific inetgrity and censorship issues. And you come back with "self serving political manipulation language with no basis in reality." Hansen had no self-serving poltitical goal in mind whatsoever prior to reaching disillusionment with his previous path of trying to work with Bush. And now his only "self-serving political" goal is to stop lawyers from telling him how he is allowed to discuss science.

As to other Administrations, I would be as critical of them if and when I hear the same kind of overwhelming disillusionment I hear right now. I never have. Not under Reagan, not under the elder Bush and not under Clinton. And I have been a scientist through all of those administrations. Sicentists of all kinds are horrified with what's going on right now in a way I have never seen before. UCS never felt it necessary to set up a separate "scientific integrity" project. Nobel Prize winners never before felt they had to set up their own PAC to protect scientific integrity (as far as I know). And I have never seen so many opinion pieces in Science and Nature about political attacks on science as I do now. I also wonder why "but everyone else does it" would be a sound arguement anyway. But even if other presidents did it as well, and I suspect there is some truth to that, this is way beyond what has happened before.


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