Is YearlyKos a Disproportionately, Overwhelmingly and Indefensibly White Gathering?

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I watched the promotional video based on last year's gathering, and I saw six Black people among 1,500 participants.

Cross-posted at http://francislholland.blogspot.com/2007/02/is-yearlykos-and-overwhelmin... and MyDD.

Today, I came across a link to a publicity video for YearlyKos and I watched the entire video to confirm a suspicion:  That YearlyKos is an overwhelmingly white gathering -disproportionately white considering the number of Blacks in the Democratic Party.  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=

-1234580617661540850&q=Mark+Bowllan  Watch the film for yourselves and tell me if my perceptions are in error.

Here's what I saw:  Watching a thirty-nine minute video of "1,500" "progressive" Democratic Party bloggers at a hotel in Las Vegas, in all of the shots where the camera panned the crowds, the hallways, the hotel rooms, and speakers diases, I saw two Black women and four Black men among 1,500 people.  If accurate, this would mean that YearlyKos was about .03% Black in a Democratic Party that has 20% elected and appointed Black delegates at the Democratic National Convention.  What is it about DailyKos and Yearly Kos that makes it so white in a Party with so much Black participation?

 

During the video someone said, "The community has come together at Firedog Lake and they're really tight!"  Maybe that's part of the problem.  

Markos says in the video, "Look at this conference!  It's the epitome of people power!"  To me, a yearly meeting of 1,500 people that includes only 6 Black people is the epitome of white people power, and that's why I think it's so important to bring this to everyone's attention.  

In a thirty-nine minute video, Darrell Jackson of Young Turks was the one and only Black person to speak about the conference and his role.  No Black politicians were featured in the video.  One Black speaker was shown on stage, but just for a moment less than would have been necessary to hear anything he said.  In crowd shots, one lone Black man was shown two or three times.

Someone else said in the video, "Locked in convention hall with 1,500 bloggers," "I think DailyKos is going to have an influence  . . .for years and years to come.  It's where everybody comes . . .!"  "We broke a record of squeezing more people into one room".  If all of this is so, then YearlyKos is setting a dangerous precedent for color-based exclusiveness within the Democratic Party that may portend a new realignment of voting patterns among Blacks and Latinos in the future.  I predict that if virtually all-white groups likes YearlyKos gain more prominence in the Party then Black people will vote less at the polls or vote against the candidates and issues supported by all-white groups.

Because, a Black person watching the YearlyKos publicity video would conclude, and I think rightly so, that this conference was for white people who were designing a new direction in which Black people and other minorities are undesireable, irrelevant and/or superfluous.  It's hardly necessary to post a "Whites Only" sign, when the publicity video makes the complexion of the group as clear as a sign would.  If a "picture is worth a thousand words", then a 39 minute video with only six Black people must be worth a whole hard drive of words - words saying "DailyKos is overwhelmingly a white conference for white people".  http://francislholland.blogspot.com/2007

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It should be obvious that any political organizing among bloggers and any political movement that results from the meeting will not include Black people.  How could it, how should it, if virtually none of us have participated in the white people's call to action?

If you simply don't like Black people, you will never find a more comfortable atmosphere in America than the Yearly DailyKos conference.  The percentage of Black people at DailyKos is less than the percentage of Black people in any state of the United States.  

But then I wasn't at the conference and I'm only reporting what I saw on a 39 minute video.  My intention here is to explore the truth - not to propagate fallacies. If what I am reporting is incorrect, I invite anyone who has better information to provide it.  

At the end of the Conference video, one speaker asked,

"One more question!  Do you want to do this next year?"

With respect to the near-total absence of Black people, I think that's a question that urgently demands to be answered.  "Do you want to do this next year?" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=

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Cross-posted at Culture Kitchen and MyDD.

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JJ Ross's picture

All Journalism

has this problem, even though journalism is supposedly so enlightened and leftist generally, so it's not just the blogosphere much less one corner of it that should concern those who rant over such mis-models.

Not that I think ranting will help, but at least that larger perspective is something to add to the script, if documenting the larger need for meaningful reform is really the cause at hand?

Maybe try Columbia Journalism Review and/or the Society of American Newspaper Editors to start, and books like this?

And there are reports such as "Unfettered Press: Minorities in Journalism" (I can save you the trouble of looking; blacks are about five percent, it says) and "http://www.namic.com/">NAMIC: Empowering Today's Multi-ethnic Diversity in Communications"

But then why stop with black journalists, either? What about professors and teachers of journalism, indeed all professors and teachers, period? They influence everything about our cultural identity one way or another, as does religion. What percentage of Catholics are bending black knees? Hmmm, that shouldn't be hard to Google either . . .

I have my own misrepresentation madness to rant about, being Southern and so backward and all. Here's a new think piece from Bob Moser of the Nation on that:

The "notion that the South is more than just 'different,' that it is distinct from the rest of the nation ... an inexplicable variant from the national norm," is a false exaggeration, wrote Zinn, that "feeds self-righteousness in the North ... And it stands so firmly and so high on a ledge of truth that one must strain to see the glitter of deception in its eye." . . .
By the 2032 elections, the South is expected to control almost 40 percent of the electoral votes for President -- more than the shrinking Northeast and Midwest combined.

And yet a stubborn belief in the poor, backward, reactionary cracker South of myth still shapes and distorts American politics. By surrendering the region, Democrats have simultaneously abandoned the old hope of a durable national progressive majority.


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Probably...

...because YK is very gay-friendly, and that's a big turn-off for many blacks, including so-called 'Progressives'. Face it, if you force your own brothers and sisters into the down low, you're not going to be hanging out in an environment that is open and accepting of gays. Didn't we just have that blowup with Isaiah Washington, and whoever that ballplayer was, about how much they hate gays?

So yeah, Francis, see, we do broad-brush defamation as well as you do. Is there anything else? Or will I just see you at Yearly Kos?

BTW, that video was made by a friend of mine. No further comment.


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JJ Ross's picture

So Educational!

Wow, I had no idea of all these undercurrents - I mean, I expect there to BE undercurrents, always, but I didn't know what they were in this case. Thanks, Michael. Smiling


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Michael Bouldin's picture

It's all true.

If you ever want to see real hostility, make an argument for equality to, say, the audience in a black church. There's a significant part of the black community - cf. Harold Ford's campaign - that's not socially Progressive at all.


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francislholland's picture

I have a lot of Black Gay Friends

I have a lot of "out" Blackgay friends and associates. Considering that people can post anonymously at DK, the mere fact of being gay and Black and ostracized wouldn't be a reason for those Blacks not to participate at DailyKos. Were it not for anti-Black bias among white gays, Black gays might be at DailyKos already. (I've read over and over again in Black contexts that whites think they gay movement is "all about them" and they don't invite or even want Blacks to participate in their efforts and culture, etc. Maybe it's not "true", but it's certainly the perception, which is what matters in terms of outreach.)

"Only after we change that which seemed essential do we realize how natural the "new normal" really is and how inevitable it always was."

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Michael Bouldin's picture

Oh, I see...

...a timely variation on the "some of my best friends are [fill in the blank]".

Thing is, you're missing the point; I can imagine that lots of straight blacks feel put off by the pro-equality bias clearly extant on Kos, and gay blacks, needing to maintain deep cover or face the ostracism of their community (I've seen it, very vividly; certain black electeds still refuse to shake my hand), would stay away from the forum for fear of being tarred 'that way'. That's the logic of the closet, and seeing how ferociously it's enforced in large parts of the black community, I'd aver that this is certainly one reason for low rates of black participation. Go to any homeless shelter built specifically for gay teens (we have them in New York), or to our one gay high school, and you'll see the fruits of the black closet. The black community is literally killing its own. And don't even get me started on misogyny.

So yeah, in the face of that, I don't really wonder about low rates of black participation on DKos. It's a screaming shame, and needs to be remedied, but don't pretend that it's a 'whites are excluding us' phenomenon solely. I thik you're blinded by hatred of DKos and merely flinging mud with the hope that some of it will stick, Francis.


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Read this diary I posted at DK, pre-ban

Michael:

I take it that you're gay, based on your comment. Great! When I was organizing immigration conferences, I organized two at which openly gay Barney Frank was a featured speaker. He has a great relationship with Black people in his district.

Unfortunately, I know what you mean about homophobia being all to rampant among all communities, including Blacks. An assistant pastor at my church once gave an anti-gay lecture during a college fellowship meeting. Then, he said, "I'm sure there are no gays in this group!"

I asked him how he could know with such certainty. In fact, a member of the group had just come out to me a week before. So, I told the minister that there were gays at our church and these kinds of comments would make it difficult for them to receive any of the mininstrations that the Church ought to be offering them.

I also spoke to the chief minister about this after he mentioned "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" in a sermon. That sort of stuff has to stop and we have to face the fact that many of our brothers and sisters (and some of us) are, in fact, gay.

Will segregation from progressives speed or slow the day when gays are accepted openly in the Black community? Many Black gays tell me that white gays think of Black gays as a world apart, not even belonging to the same group as white gays.

I can tell you that one of my favorite athors is E. Lynn Harris, who writes about the Black gay experience and the "down low". I have read all of his books and they are excellent. He's spot on about a lot of things and is an excellent writer. If you haven't read his stuff, you might want to have a look. Once I pick up an E. Lynn Harris novel, I can't put it down until I've read it through and through. http://amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/102-2799617-5261716?url=search-alias%3D...

"Only after we change that which seemed essential do we realize how natural the "new normal" really is and how inevitable it always was."

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Michael Bouldin's picture

All very well and good

...but here's the issue: you posit that the racial complexion of DK/YK is the consequence of racial bias on the part of the leadership and/or user universe. I'm counter-theorizing that this stems from the negative self-selection that could arise from the ideological nature of the site. Your anecdote buttresses my theory, not yours.

I'd suggest it's time to widen your explanatory model to include my rather valid observations, namely that there are some reasons inherent in the black community for its under-representation at DKos. That would have the added charm of intellectual honesty.


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Oops, Here's the DK link!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/6/18826/5369

"Only after we change that which seemed essential do we realize how natural the "new normal" really is and how inevitable it always was."

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Nanette's picture

Well...

I came across this a day or so ago and, though a bit perturbed, was just going to leave it as is - but it's continued to bother me, so I'll just add a little commentary.

I understand that the above comments might possibly have been in the nature of "see, I can generalize about an entire group, too", as it sort of seems, from one of the comments - still the impression is left... by a "managing editor", no less! (as we can see from the "So Educational!" comment - and reply) that this is a generalization with a large measure of truth to it.

I strongly disagree.

I don't know Francis, nor do I share his love for Hillary, but I've been a visitor to daily kos since about early 2003 and, like many Black folks and other folks of color, decided fairly early on that it was a pretty hostile place to people of color. More so in the run-up to the 2004 election, and afterwards it didn't get much better. And while there are indeed some Black people who are religious and/or virulently anti-gay (I don't personally know any that are anti-gay, but am going by the polls and people's personal anecdotes), there are also a great many who are not.

While the attitude of some towards gays may inform their participation in mostly White political communities - as is possibly the case with the vastly more vocal and numerous anti-gay White folks - I believe there are far more who are/were put off by seeing (especially at daily kos) almost every day diaries with "n****r" spelled out in the titles or text - and attacks against people who complained as being "PC". (I mentioned a while back to a few friends that in my almost 50 years, I'd never seen that word so much as I had on that White liberal site and I have no idea why there is such love for that word there.)

Or writing on issues such as economic justice, or social justice, and either being completely ignored (as with most diaries dealing with non-White people written by non-White people), and having the White "progressives" (or liberals, as they were known at the time) swarm in, screeching about handouts and welfare queens and every other right wing trope dealing with racial issues, time after time after time. Most non-White folks just decided to shake the dust of kos (and other like sites) off their feet and move on.

Yearly kos had its own issues, as well... someone posted a diary after the speakers for the first convention were announced after noticing that, in all the convention programming, not one Black person had been slated as a speaker (this person was, of course, attacked for making the observation, but there was also a conversation had about it).

Plenty of other stuff - as many of the Black folks who stuck it out there, such as fabooj - whose friends and family, she has said, cannot figure out why she posts on such a racist site - can affirm. I'm not going to get into all the things, as this isn't kos, but I just wanted to make sure that that "Black people don't participate in White liberal/progressive sites because they hate gay people" tripe was not left to sit here unopposed by anyone except Francis Holland.


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