Snow!

It finally snowed in New York City! This will certainly cheer up my hairless monkeys, especially Thing2.

Thing 2 has been having "nightmares" with global warming, especially after he saw the previews for "An Inconvenient Truth". He's scared about the prospect of the New York City 'drowning' if the polar icecaps melt.

He doesn't want to see the Al Gore documentary.

I asked him why. I wanted to know why he was scared by a documentary but when he watches movies like Lord of the Rings and plays games like Half Life or Halo3, he barely blinks.

His answer?

"Mommy, those are fantasy; but global warming is real".


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mole333's picture

Smart Kid

You could try and get him involved in the solution. That might give him a sense of control over the situation, no matter how small. Reforestation efforts, building wind farms, etc. are all ways people "offset" their carbon usage. I have some skepticism as to just how much can be offset and how effective these are, but they are better than nothing and might help him feel more in control regarding a pretty frightening prospect. I could dig up suggestions if he is interested. And, of course, he could write letters to electeds and media asking people to consider his future.


liza's picture

OOOh. He would love to plant some trees.

I should look into the Parks Department. They should have programs for the kids.

As to a sense of control, we do a number of green things here that the kids did not know we did. For example, we don't own a car by choice. We used to have one but sold it because it was just too much trouble. We only rent when we need one. Most of the time we walk or take the bus. They also scooter to their school every day.

They now know why we recycle and try to buy unpackaged food. We have only one AC in the whole apt. So we bunk in the living room when it gets too hot.

The problem is, like you say, it's not enough --especially in a city like NYC where most people do not own the buildings they live in. The incentives NYC has created for landlords are really not enough because they address only new buildings.


mrme's picture

Don't

Don't poison the kid with fantasy horror stories. When I was growing up, I had to endure all this crap about how we were heading for another ice age. Scared the shit out of me. An for what? Don't make him a scared little pawn in your political war.


liza's picture

Oh get a life dude

Actually, since my kids have been in school, there's a lot of bullshit attempts to pseudo-lefty brainwashing by their teachers that I've had to counterpunch with facts and the truth. One of these propagandaish moments had to do with the very subject we're discussing.

It does not help that it has been an incredibly warm winter. That is actually more unnerving to him because it makes real the abstract concept of global warming. I spent a good part of the week allaying his fear of imminent flooding doom. So when I woke up this morning, first thing I pointed out to him was that the process of polar melting is going to take a while.

So he looked at me and paused and said, "Mommy, I guess you're right".

And people wonder why I am so resentful of having my kids in school ... for all intents and purposes, I'm still homeschooling!


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This is a debunked myth

That whole "new ice age" BS is based on a SINGLE statement made by a SINGLE scientist in a non-scientific discussion. It was NEVER made by anyone seriously and that scientist fairly soon withdrew his prediction.

You are repeating bullshit either mistakenly or, as Rush Limbaugh did with the "Mt. Pinatubo's eruption caused global warming" myth, intentionally.

There is a solid consensus among climatologists that global warming IS happening. There are hundreds of scientific, peer-reviewed articles backing that up. We are well into warming, with our ice caps starting to shrink. THere is not one single peer reviewed article contradicting the anthropomorphic global warming theory.

So, either you are repeating myths without realizing they are myths or you are intentionally imitating Rush Limbaugh and outright lying about it. Either way, you are wrong.


mrme's picture

actually

The warm beginning of this winter had nothing to do with global warming, but with El Nino. That;s a fact. And as for, the consensus of scientists you refer to. Science is not conducted by consensus, but by evidence. Consensus science is not science at all, but politics. There is no man-made global warming.


mole333's picture

Wrong again

First off, I personally said nothing about the fact that this is a record warm year. I am a scientist, so I would not draw conclusions based on a single datum. But, as my wife the climatologist points out, this record warm year is part of a pattern of record warm years that is unprecedented.

As to the consensus, the bottom line is NOT ONE SINGLE peer reviewed paper contradicts the anthropogenic (man-made) global warming theory. The overwhelming evidence is that there IS man-made global warming. THAT is the scientific evidence. Have you been reading the scientific literature? I have to the best of my ability. My wife lives and breathes this stuff and she reads the literature and she will assure you that you are wrong...and can go into great length regarding the evidence.

Let me put this clearly as a scientist and husband of a scientist and brother of a scientist: the scientific evidence strongly suggests you are wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Got that? THe theory is now an old theory and has some 30 years of strong supporting evidence. Got that? THAT is why there is an OVERWHELMING consensus of SCIENTISTS that thing there IS INDEED man-made caused global warming.


zensnob's picture

our global warming fantasy

oh profoundly silly utopianly deluded we,
fervent espousers of sordid scientific theory.

tenants of scientific reality are spawned by logic, not ideology.
galileo, newton, einstein & feynman people our pantheon,
so if you would refute gravitation, radiation, or thermometry,
do so on coherent philosophical grounds & we say, game on!

but if you, in the face of overwhelming observational evidence,
dispute that airplanes fly, cell phones ring, and glaciers melt,
that which even the slowest of the herd have begun to sense,
then back to the stone age with you & off w/ that synthetic pelt.

your rebellious nature's admirable in the face of the herd instinct
but herd must be more often right than wrong or we'd be extinct.


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