Sorry, but there is a difference; you just don't get it

There's a thread downstream featuring one of the oldest, and to me most tedious, tropes of American discourse: the fashionably cynical argument that there's no real difference between the two major parties where average folks are concerned. In normal times, this could be dismissed as a modish affectation, the kind that produces the pleasing feeling of being somehow smarter, more in tune with the Zeitgeist, so desired by those who'd like to keep at bay the tedium of making public choices; but these are not normal times. You're just not paying attention, and your argument is akin to doubting the existence of sharks because you haven't been eaten by one yet.

To put it in very stark terms: the foundations of the Republic are under attack. Simply put, while we may have seen precedents for this or that action taken by the former ruling party, we have never, in two hundred and thirty years, seen a systemic assault, on so many fronts at once, on the basic principles of American governance and the civilizational bedrock that underlies them. Once again: among people paying attention, in the academy, legislatures, the bar, business, even the church, this is not a controversial assessment; you, my friend, just haven't been paying attention. And I get impatient with it, because yours is fundamentally a lazy, solipsistic argument.

Underlying our civilization is the principle of empiricism. The republican party seeks to replace that principle, that observable reality is the proper yardstick for decision-making, with the concept that ideology and religion are in fact the arbiters. This is manifest in such little-known endeavors as, say, budgetary policy, which they base on the unproven (but fervently willed) trickle-down theory; in climate policy, the official policy of the republican party is that global warming does not exist; in trade policy, in educational policy, foreign policy, defense policy, the republicans adhere to a fundamentally ideological view of the world. For the first time in American history, one of the two major parties is expressly, fundamentally, intrinsically ideological. That's never happened before – ever.

Underlying, even founding, our government is the concept of the rule of law, the idea that the same rules apply to all, and that nobody is above or below the embrace of the law. The republicans have made at least two sustained attacks on that fundamental principle, which itself predates even the Common Law: one, the legislative action taken by Congress on Terri Schiavo, which established the ominous precedent that Congress could pass a law applying to only one person (the same logic which, incidentally, underpinned Bush v. Gore, the first Supreme Court decision to expressly abjure precedent, and a revolution in its own right); two, the principle established by republicans, for the duration of what they call 'The Long War', that any President at his (or her) discretion and pleasure, without any oversight, can declare any American citizen an enemy combatant, removing such a citizen from any protection of the law. That's earth-shattering in terms of constitutional import, and entirely without precedent.

Then, there's the thorny question of the separation of church and state, where once again the lines are clear: Democrats support it, republicans, as a matter of doctrine and policy, do not. Read their party platform every once in a while. Again, this is bedrock, and it's not about silly frippery such as school prayer; it's about the precedent and principle of whether the state can legislate private belief, and whether private belief may be free of the compulsions of the state. If that's an irrelevant distinction to some people, then I consider that view to be shallow and scarcely worthy of debate, because this is the stuff which produced centuries of wars. Read your history. For that matter, read Theocracy Watch.

Or consider a small, theoretical argument known to an obscure clique of political scientists as 'the separation of powers'. It is official policy of the republican party that one of these branches, the executive, is supreme over the other two, the legislative and the judicative. For example, republicans hold that 'signing statements' can be attached by a President to Acts of Congress, determining what they mean. That this usuros the powers of the legislature is the intent of this view. In the same vein, the republicans have attempted to pass legislation removing certain subjects - school prayer, abortion and flag burning - from judicial review. What does this mean in the aggregate? It means that republicans are setting up a government that is unaccountable to anyone. And now tell me that this doesn't matter, or that Democrats are doing the same.

It's very easy to get caught up in the details of the Bush administration's assault on America. So they read our mail, Nixon did that, too. Same thing with tapping phones. So they intern people without due process, FDR did, too. Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus for a while, when it seemed that an enemy army was about to take the capital. So they invade foreign countries – ever heard of McKinley? So they legislate against evolution, global warming, sex education, equal rights, who cares, that's what republicans do, right?

The difference this time around is that it's all happening at the same time, is being precipitated by the same actors, and flows from a coherent ideology, one that has some distance to go before it concludes. Where will that conclusion be? If it's not stopped, in a totalitarian, Christianist state.

Here's what matters, and why the small-bore argument of 'they're all crooks' ultimately fails: the aggregate of the republican assault on America is such that it's a new thing entirely. It's unprecedented, in breadth and scope, by anything that has happened in the centuries of our national journey. If you fail to see that, you simply don't know what you're talking about. In short, you're wrong, and dangerously so.

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CALiberal's picture

The war against women, in whose hands does it belong?

How often do we hear the Democratic leadership speak to the war against women that has raged on the past 6+ years?

We have a majority leader who voted for S403, a bill so heinous Barbara Boxer said it's one of the most poorly drafted, egregious pieces of legislation she's seen in all her years of being an elected official. On the floor of the Senate she said as a result of the passage of this bill, many young girls will take their own lives because they feel they have no other recourse, they are amongst a group of young girls who are the victims of incest.

The bill gives the father full parental rights, there is nothing that has been taken away from him but suing the aunts, uncles, grandparents or clergy that help the pregnant young girl cross state lines to get an abortion.

Majority leader Harry Reid voted for that bill knowing all of the ramifications it brings forth.

That's merely one example of how silent this leadership has been on women's rights and issues throughout the term of this president. They side with Democrats for Life, they pander to them, they endorse and support them. How many times have we heard them speak out for women's reproductive rights?

John Kerry compromised on the refusal clauses, the right of pharmacists not to fill birth control prescriptions for women. Instead of holding the pharmacists' feet to the fire, he came up with yet another compromise in women's struggles to be free from the assault against us, an assault that is taking us back 30+ years.

This leadership hates, more than almost anything, being pushed to the wall when the issue of abortion comes up. It's as if they dare not utter the very word, a medical procedure that is the right of every woman to choose if she believes it's in her own best interests.

Nancy Pelosi recruited, supported and fought mightily to get Tim Roemer elected DNC chair. Hilary Clinton and Harry Reid have stood shoulder to shoulder with Democrats for Life, an organization that is every bit as strident in their agenda as is the rightwing of the Republican Party.

DFL believe life begins at conception. They heartily endorsed and supported the ban on abortions in South Dakota, leaving in the no exceptions mandate, none for incest, rape or the life of the woman.

DFL also campaigns against stem cell research. They called John Kerry the Democratic Party's answer to Hitler because of his stance on abortion, even though his stand is far from being that of a clearly spoken advocate.

I understand the concern of lumping both parties together. I get that the Democrats were just sworn in as the majority party. I also know, without a shadow of a doubt, that the plight of women in this country did not happen overnight, this war against us has had the support of many in leadership positions in the Democratic Party. Either by their silence or who they stand toe to toe with, women are in a world of hurt in this country and that is so with the help of the Democratic Party.

They have much to prove in my eyes, the burden of proof is theirs because we have a rightwing in both parties and in 'our' party it's considered a more politically expedient thing to do to pander to those who are anti- choice, in the guise of Democrats for Life, all of this while women and young girls' very lives are at stake.

Women are watching and we're deadly serious because it is no less than our lives that are on the line.

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Michael Bouldin's picture

OK...

...when the Democratic Party acts to outlaw choice, we'll talk. Meanwhile, let's just assume that the party as an entity is pro-choice, because nitpicking about individuals aside, it is. I'm reasonably well connected, and I've never even heard of this DFL group.

As to the 'world of hurt', if you're suggesting that 34 years of adocacy for choice mean nothing because some members of the leadership don't make choice their one, only, and defining issue, sorry, you're also missing the point.

And in a way, you're illustrating why some Dems are reluctant to make choice a top issue; some, a few, one might add. But that's because of the Bushian with-us-or-against-us view taken by some of the advocates. The burden of proof, as far as I'm concerned, is on the pro-choice community to prove that the immense investment made in it was worthwhile; because last I checked, NARAL (for example) had this irritating habit of endorsing republicans. The Democrats aren't the ones who need to prove their loyalty on that subject, not after the bleeding we've done to keep choice legal, and the backstabbing it's not managed to prevent. Let's talk about what the choice community owes Democrats.

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mole333's picture

DFL

DFL exists but is a pretty small and marginal group, one which it is kind of silly to use as an example of the party as a whole. I noticed them on Act Blue, I believe.

The Democratic Party Platform (nationally, I don't know about each and every state level party platform) has consistently been pro-choice for as long as I have been politically active.

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Michael Bouldin's picture

Alrighty

I'm sure they exist, if only because every single persuasion has its own Democratic subgroup; but yes, the platform has been pro-choice since long before Roe.

Meanwhile, again as noted, Naral endorsed Lincoln Chafee. So yeah, what has the pro-choice movement done for us? What have they done to deserve my support? Especially the unconditional, no-holds-barred support that seems to be required?

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Lorraine's picture

Michael

I'm going to try to be respectful, even though the tone of your response to Caliberal was hardly so.

To quote you in the original post:
"You're just not paying attention, and your argument is akin to doubting the existence of sharks because you haven't been eaten by one yet."

It's funny how you can see that the theocratic arm of the Republican party as threatening us all because of global warming and signing statements and Terri Schiavo. You'll get no argument from me.

But if you cannot see that the right to privacy--which, if it's based on such small matters as, say the 4th amendment, or the 9th amendment--is also a bedrock of democracy, than you have not been paying attention, and when the sharks come to take away your right to privacy, then you'll know what it's like to be eaten. Right to privacy gets conveniently labeled a woman's issue, the right to abortion. I guess men don't need sovereignty over their own bodies.

By the way, I went and checked the vote on Schiavo. Um. Nearly 50 Democratic reps voted for it. How many voted for Alito's nomination? How many for Roberts? How many voted to authorize the war in Iraq? How many for the Patriot Act? How many voted for suspension of habeas corpus? Think torture is okay?

Yes, there's a difference between the Democrats and Republicans, and I hope you're right that the Democrats are going to defend the republic from those who seek to destroy it. Yes. The Republicans are theocratic fuckwads who need to be driven from office. There is a lot to admire in the Democrats, and no, there's no chance I'd vote for a Republican, but for you to assert that anyone who cares about a right to privacy is a single-issue voter who doesn't care about the republic, is patronizing.

And I love being patronized.

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Michael Bouldin's picture

Lorraine

...you're not being patronized. That's entirely not the point. What I'm saying here, and in part doing so with deliberately inflammatory arguments, is simply this: there's too much at stake, for all of us, to focus laser-like on the fact that people we otherwise support are not uniformly in agreement with us on everything. That's where this pervasive cynicism enfolding political discourse comes from.

I'm not pleased with the Dems on some issues either - trade comes to mind. Am I going to put them on the same rhetorical shelf as creatures of pure evil like Rick Santorum? Also, no. The difference is agency; you're not going to see a Dem starting to legislate against choice.

I could go on and argue that the choice movement has been out-argued, out-spent and out-organized by its enemies, which is part of the reason why the Dems are open to receiving votes from anti-choice voters, and have some anti-choice actors in our folds. Seventy or eighty out of a hundred Americans are pro-choice to some extent, true enough; but that doesn't stop a good portion of those folks from voting for a party that expressly wants to abolish your right to choose. Are you going to blame the Dems for not ignoring that? Or is it maybe time to start agitating against the other side?

Because, as you rightly note, all of this is connected?

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JJ Ross's picture

Female Ecology?

It struck me listening to this video short about creativity inherent in "human ecology" being systematically compromised, in school systems and partisan politics and most other social systems, that I wanted to blog human ecology in parallel with global warming ecology.

I think all our systems are strangling creativity, or eating the seed corn or burning it up, or some such ecological metaphor.

Haven't had time to do more than get the glimmer of the idea yet -- my car's computer system apparently is in menopause along with me, and not even the scientists here can help me pick out the ecologically and economically best choice for a new A/C system, so I've been pretty harried -- but I hope to think more about it soon. With all the talk about what we're doing to ourselves and the planet in other threads, CK seems like the perfect place.

Then, reading Cali's latest above, I am blown away (again! Cali, glad you are here!) by the difference between how smart women and smart men GENERALLY approach complex problems, and I wondered if human ecology should be introduced to this discussion as something that women are more in tune with than men are? Or maybe something more natural to the typically female way of thinking -- not trying for political correctness here, just to get the thought out.

For me (and to be redundant I am a woman) when human ecology is in desperate need and systemic problems aren't getting solved, it's time to change the systems, not vote for MVP! Whatever it takes. Think of something better, get out of the damned ring, stop being a contender before you suffer irreversible brain damage and do something else with your life!

Bill Clinton spoke very powerfully after leaving the presidency, about the rising global importance of NGOs (nongovernmental organizations) and I don't see that as so different from the first President Bush inspiring people to create a thousand points of light.

Anything can be bastardized and usually is, but this IDEA is the right one to me, and it doesn't belong to either Rs or Ds, nor does the responsibility for not corrupting it and souring people on it (as people in both parties are doing or have done in the past, imo.) This just seems to be easier for men to grasp when they can advocate for national protocols for wind or solar power, or debate hydrogen conversion costs, or whatever -- easier than when they are confronted with failing social systems? Or maybe my hot air should be harnessed to run some machines of some kind, dunno . . .

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Michael Bouldin's picture

Just curious

If what we're talking about is the destruction of the rule of law and of the separation of powers, what is the point of supposed differing gender approaches? Are you trying to say that women don't care about these threats because they're presumably not 'mommy issues'?

I would rather point out the structure of CAliberal's argument, which is quickly summed up as :"You're not perfect on my issue as I define perfect, and that's bad". That's not a gender-specific focus; rather, that's a common approach among many single-issue advocates, no matter what the issue is. Not to question anyone's originality, but I've heard this before from LGBT/marriage activists, choice activists, environmental advocates and even the voting-machine people.

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JJ Ross's picture

Huh?

I wish I had some idea what you're saying so I could understand it enough to respond to at least part of it but I'm sorry, I don't. Seriously. Our context for this conversation must not overlap at all! Smiling

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Tara Parks's picture

i have never voted for a

i have never voted for a Republican. never will.

yet i am torn by what you write, which you wrote very well, by the way. i do think the Democrats are better in theory. but in practice, they have let this country down in a lot of ways.

i agree that now we must unite behind the Dems bc no one could imagine how bad it was going to be and you are correct: it is all happening at the same time, which is unprecedented. but i insist that we stay on the Dems and really make them do their fucking job. Christ almighty, these people work for US. when did we forget that?!? i fear that people will say, "oh, the Dems are taking care of everything!" and suddenly we have another disaster on our hands, whether it's a new scandal or war(sometimes,like now, the same thing).

i think the bigger difference is between the voters. but again, this comes back to my inherent distrust of authority and the rich, which most politicians fall into whether they are Dems or Republicans and which is an assessment with which you don't agree. however, i don't mean to use the argument that i believe both parties are greedy to ignore action, but rather to cultivate it, for now is the time to act or our we lose our country.

the United States simply cannot afford another Republican reign of terror.

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