Western Civilization...a history of emotional dysfunction...

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Promoted and post-dated by liza; who says this one is an instant classic and a serious must read.

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So, I had a conversation with Stinkapee. She wanted to know why the British had enslaved Black Africans, our ancestors and dragged them over here to work. I gave her a simple answer. I told her that they probably had Dursleys for parents.

I was talking to my counsellor when I realized that I was more accurate than I realized. The "parents" of the British, the influential people that Western historians would probably say came before the British were the Romans who invaded that tiny island way back when it was just a collection of warring tribes.

Does this sound familiar?

So, the ancestors of the Scots, the Irish, the Welsh, umm...there might be others, were just there minding their own business, painting themselves blue, having yearly rituals in the honour of the earth goddess, trying to jostle for better land, more food, fertile wimmin...of course this is a gross over simplification...

When along came the Romans sweeping across Europe, dominating, harming, "civilizing", everything in their wake as they stretched the boundaries of their state's reach.

These, warlike, patriarchal, dominating, authoritarian, violent people came with their values, spread not just their architecture, their styles of governance, their language (Romance languages), their official religion (eventually christianity was imposed by the Romans), but also spread extreme emotional dysfunction.

This is what I'm thinking...

So, you have these legions, men marching, emotionally deprived (what some would called disciplined) across the whole of Europe, away from families, no parenting time, murdering, plundering, dominating on a really large scale, knowingly spreading the Pax Romana, the Roman "Peace", more like the Pox Romana...a plague of maladjusted ideas about how to lead, how to rule, how to worship, how to marry, how to run a home, how to deal with those who have less power, how to define citizenship, how to define woman, how to parent children.

They believed that their approach to life was worth imposing at swordpoint and they did just that. They came with controlled rage under wraps, the willingness to harm while speaking of government and civility. Only people who were in severe denial about the harm they caused could spin their successful domination as a benefit to the peoples they damaged. Spin doctoring isn't a new concept, obviously.

Just so we can be clear, I know that some will want to include the various interrelationships between the actual countries of Europe saying that they also invaded and influenced each other. But, to my mind, these internal skirmishes, exchanges, intermarriages, double crossings, invasions all came after the fact, after the Romans had "infected" every single culture in their reach with a particular approach to imperialist expansion.

I'm not about trying to erase the spread of Islam through much of the ancient world or the North Africans moving up into Spain and occupying it, influencing it architecturally, culturally or linguistically or Genghis sweeping across the Steppes bearing culture and dna samples, too.

I'm not saying that the Romans invented imperialism. But I do think that they, like many of the world's other hugely "successful" ancient world powers had something in common, they imposed views, ideas, culture, religion, ways of governing through violence.

Funny thing is though...at this present moment, the world isn't dominated by just any old power. It's dominated by the US and through them by Canada and European states such as Britain and through these states by a vast majority of corporations who all trace their lineage back to the Romans and beyond and in so doing, I believe that they claim a heritage of merciless emotional harm and trauma that stretches back as far as has been documented.

I'm invested in tracing this. Why? Even though I can't hope to unmake what happened in/to the people in my family, I do understand that trauma and fuk'd ways of dealing are passed down and around. The evidence is in the ways we treat the planet, the ways we treat each other, in th ways we do our political work, in the ways our governments go about their business.

There's a link...well, many.

So, I've gotten as far as the Romans. A life of studying everything I could get my hands on about ancient world history should count for something more than just a knowledge of which language came from where, who migrated where and intermingled with who, where a particular culture originates, blah, blah, blah ...

I'm sitting with Papi talking about this post and...

I remember one Black dyke partner bringing home Toni Morrison's "Playing In The Dark" when I was in my twenties. My analysis was developing, but I was still very basic in regards to constructions of race in many ways. As a result, I was so enraged by the idea of examining the horrible effects of white people's own racism on themselves, an idea she explored in on of the essays that I immediately decided to look on her analysis with more of a jaundiced eye.Why would I be interested in the emotional trauma of white folks? They had nothing to do with me.

Fastforward to present day. Strike that. As the colonized, living in close proximity to the colonizer on the same stolen lands for so long, I've come to the realization that their trauma became our trauma, became my family's trauma, became my trauma as soon as the ancestors of present day white people set foot on African shores so many hundreds of years ago.

Later, I also remembered Memmi and Fanon who discussed and wrote about the psychology of the colonized. I think they, too understood that the colonizer had created and nurtured madness in those they colonized. I understand colonization as the act of imposing insanity through trauma and systemic abuse. My thing is that the ancestors of the white people we know today "came" to the "new" worlds they "discovered" already driven insane by their own experience as the dominated. As with many people who experience abuse, they just decided that the best way to scrub themselves clean, as it were, was to offer that experience to others, thereby revising the hierarchies they were offered by placing others beneath them.

As a result, all information about their ancient history of being dominated forms a picture that can only increase my understanding of who I am as a daughta of Black Africans brought by the colonizer to the West.

I'd like to read and understand more. More on this as I trek not forward right now, but instead waaaay....back.

Next stop? I figure Sparta and Athens. Or as I'd like to call it Ancient Patriarchal Relations 101 with a (hom0)sexy twist, no?


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Michael Bouldin's picture

Oy.

It's a nice, neat theory to draw a line from Rome to the present, but if you apply the model to Britain, it's almost certainly inaccurate. Of all the influences on present-day England, none is weaker than Rome; there's no effect left there, and never has been, of Roman law, architecture, or language, except indirectly, second-hand if you will, from the Norman Conquest. The longest lines you can draw are to ancient Wessex, which was of course an Anglo-Saxon entity. The Isles were invaded by Germanic tribes that displaced the existing Celto-Roman civilization completely; that's how Wales and Ireland came about.

Historically, it was precisely Anglo-Norman England, with its homegrown traditions of law, religion and commerce, that stood as a counter-model to the Romanized continent. Louis XIV, Napoleon and Hitler found that out to their cost. These homegrown traditions - Magna Carta, for example - also gave rise to the anti-slavery movement, which abolished slavery in Britain in 1772, the slave trade in the British Empire in 1807, and slavery in toto in 1833. Further reading is here.

So while your theory is attractive intellectually, it doesn't pass muster in historical terms. Sorry.


Margaret Bassett's picture

Lisa's right

You weaved time and space into where we exist. It's late and I can't do it justice. So I'll just say thank you and I hope to see more from you.


liza's picture

Michael, the accuracy of the offending empire is not the issue

the way we weave will to power in our every day life is.

people of european ascendancy live as if the somehow they were immune to the very physical and anymic woes of prejudice ...and black people in this country live as if they were the only ones affected by those woes.

i like the way DD weaves the abstract into a very present and physical reality.

it's late and i am tired but will definitely come back to this.


mole333's picture

Some minor points

There is a touch of mischaracterization of Roman Imperial attitude. First off, you are probably right regarding the marching of gung-ho, macho men across the Empire. But...

Rome was never in the habit of imposing much other than a tax system on most of the Empire. As long as you paid taxes, you could largely worship what you liked (maybe with a token temple to the Imperial Cult tacked on) and even speak your own language (as long as you knew enough Latin to send in your denarii and solidii). Roman influence was strong in the cities (which were largely Roman from foundation on) and weak in the countryside. This was the case to the degree that Latin dropped completely out of use after Roman withdrawal in places like Britain and North Africa quite rapidly. You even had a resurgence of old languages and culture. This was not the case in Spain and France because they had become far more Romanized largely because Romanization was their ticket to power and prosperity.

Roman Imperial power did reinforce slavery (though pretty much everyone had slavery as part of their system throughout history). And once Rome became Christian their decisions to interefere with local culture became far, far, FAR more pervasive. In that sense it is Christianity that made Roman rule oppressive rather than the original Roman conquest.

Interesting ideas though. Colonizers pass along their dysfunctional behavior. I think this really is grossly oversimplified, but I wonder...it does bring to mind some more recent examples. The behavior of African dictators in the aftermath of the collapse of European colonial rule (discussed in King Leopold's Ghost, a book well worth reading). And makes me wonder how far back you CAN trace the chain of cultural dysfunction.


Margaret Bassett's picture

Dysfunction is maybe a loaded word

Given that most conclude human beings are not really civilized, why should we expect to be other than dysfunctional in our cultural intercourse? Civilization is a process, not a done deal. Some grosser outrages may be softened but not to the point where we stop discussing them. Slavery, oppression of women and children, murder, and mass murder (aka, war) come to mind. If we resort to national affiliation, we beg the question of the global scope made graphic in DD's story.
The broad landscape painted by her is, to me, a way of understanding how the power establishment dujour can move peoples and practices from one part of the earth to another. As I finished reading the article, I began to think of those documentaries which prove how similar all peoples' DNA is. It was almost like watching the human genome story, except this time it was being told by an observer of the universe.
Before I can understand more thoroughly what brought this essay to light, I would like to hear from its author. Critics, including me, need to put the piece in context.


mole333's picture

Dysfunction...

Dysfunction was chosen because the Empire oppression being perpetuated by the conquered reminded me of abuse being perpetuated in families. But I think it works. Civilization is a process as you say and often pretty dysfunctional...and the dysfunction does get perpetuated.


Lorraine's picture

Melian Dialogue

I like this essay; historical accuracy be damned, I like the metaphor you're getting at. When I read through this, I was reminded of something from Thucydides, in his The Peloponnesian War. It is, to my mind, still one of the strongest definitions of what empire eventually does both to the conquered and the conqueror. I quote just a bit. The island of Melos was threatened by the Athenians. This was the "dialogue" that took place as they were trying to negotiate. It is known as the Melian Dialogue, and it's in Book 5 of the history.

Council of the Melians: No one can object to each of us putting forward our own views in a calm atmosphere. That is perfectly reasonable. What is scarcely consistent with such a proposal is the the present threat, indeed the certainty, of your making war on us. We see that you have come prepared to judge the argument yourselves, and that the likely end of it all will be either war, if we prove that we are in the right, and so refuse to surrender, or else slavery.

a few paragraphs later:
Athenians: Instead we recommend that you should try to get what is possible for you to get, taking into consideration what we both do really think; since you know as well as we do that, when these matters are discussed by practical people, the standard of justice depends on the equality of power to compel and that in fact the strong do what they have the power to do and the weak accept what they have to accept.

The entire dialogue is a masterpiece of strong Athens explaning, with arms to back itself up, that justice is always a matter of who holds power and who does not.
You might want to look at the dialogue because these arguments pre-date the Romans, and for me, have always represented a bald-faced admission about what empire really is all about.


mole333's picture

Jewish History

As an aside to the main theme, it strikes me that Jewish history is one long attempt to stand up to those forces with more arms who tell us what to do...and mostly we lose. Assyrian Empire? We'll fight them in the name of freedom!...bye bye Kingdom of Israel. Babylonian Empire? We'll fight them, too...bye bye Kingdom of Judah. Seleucid Empire (Syrian Greeks)? We'll rebel against them! What, you mean we WON??? We actually WON??? Well, Happy Hanukkah them!

Romans? We'll take them on...twice...OOPS! THAT was our biggest mistake to date.

Christain Kingdoms? Arab lands? Spanish Inquisition? Pogroms? Nazis? Well, no victories there.

And now Israel surrounded by enemies who have always wanted to destroy them.

An entire history of standing up to Empires and hordes of enemies...mostly unsuccessfully.

A submotif to the main motif? More common than it seems? Don't know.


Margaret Bassett's picture

To go back to 2 authors in the story

DarkDaughta refers to Fanon. As themes of good and evil were being discussed during the VN war by ecumenical Christian groups, Fanon was on the reading list. I had already heard it mentioned by one of my African-American students who was a convert to Islam.
But she also mentioned Toni Morrison, who I learned to love before either the Nobel Committee or Oprah had her in their sights.
Morrison gave a series of three lectures (Harvard I believe), seriously discussing the part played by African-American culture in all US literature. Perhaps I can find it later. It will be on an old floppy disk and my computer is stuttering tonight. Later.
Which brings up another aspect of conqueror and conquered. There is a saying that the oppressed oppress the oppressor. In the past few years I think of it as media tallies up the new vocabulary. Jihad and fatwa. New language comes with new relationships.


Nezua Limón Xolagrafik-Jonez's picture

i hereby dub this comment "uaschaviaol"

some fascinating thoughts in here.


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