How to talk to a (Fundamentalist) Christian Part II
Second in a 4 Part Series
Part II: The Snake in our Garden: Meet your inner Reptile
Your Reptilian brain is all the rage lately. Arianna Huffington, Tom Atlee and Thom Hartmann have all published work recently that addresses the Bush/ Cheney talent for getting into your primitive self and getting it to do what they want. This is important information that I first encountered reading the works of Carl Sagan. One of my greatest regrets is that I never got to discuss the Reptile Self with him. As all those who have come after him have done, Dr. Sagan thought we should get over it. The Reptilian Brain to him was something to overcome, an inferior part of our psyche that gets in the way of logic, so it must be suppressed. That's only partly correct.
It does get in the way of logic. The mistake is in thinking you can suppress it. That inner beast is coming out one way or another. You either work with it or it works against you. If you want to survive, you'd better make friends with it. We won't get around the Radical Right just by being who we are. In a very real way, we are acting as the "liberal elite" they say we are. We are appealing to reason where no reason yet exists.
Arianna put it succinctly:
"Thanks to the Bush campaign's unremitting fear-mongering, millions of voters are reacting not with their linear and logical left brain but with their lizard brain and their more emotional right brain.
What's more, people in a fog of fear are more likely to respond to someone whose primary means of communication is in the nonverbal realm, neither logical nor language-based. (Sound like any presidential candidate you know?)
Deep in the brain lies the amygdala, an almond-sized region that generates fear. When this fear state is activated, the amygdala springs into action. Before you are even consciously aware that you are afraid, your lizard brain responds by clicking into survival mode. No time to assess the situation, no time to look at the facts, just: fight, flight or freeze."
Tom Atlee asked if we can "move past reptilian logic". The simple answer is "NO". There is no "reptilian logic". There is only reptilian instinct and that instinct shuts down the part of the mind that has logic. It is entirely reactive. Note the tendency to call Bush's cohorts "reactionary". It's pre-verbal, so you can't talk your way around it. It has no language. It's ritualistic, fond of habit and suspicious of change.
Hartmann crafted a nice crash course in brain development, thus:
"We humans, being the product of a long evolutionary process, really have three brains. And, as the Bush psy-ops folks know, politicians who win campaigns do so because they speak to all three of those brains.
First there's the most primitive of our brains, sometimes referred to as the "reptilian brain" because we share it in common with reptiles like alligators and komodo dragons. The reptile brain has a singular focus: survival. It doesn't think in abstract terms, and doesn't feel complex emotions. Instead, it's responsible for fight-or-flight, hunger and fear, attack or run. It's also non-verbal - you can stimulate it with the right words, but it operates purely at the level of visceral stimulus-response.
The second brain is one we share with the animals that came along after reptiles - mammals. The mammalian brain - sometimes referred to as the Limbic Brain because it extends around and off of the reptilian brain in a dog-leg shape that resembles a limb - handles complex emotions like love, indignation, compassion, envy, and hope. Anybody who's worked with animals or had a pet knows that mammals share these emotions with humans, because we share this brain. While a snake can't feel shame or enthusiasm, it's completely natural for a dog or cat. And, like the reptile brain, the mammalian brain can also be stimulated indirectly by words, and is also non-verbal. It expresses itself exclusively in the form of feelings, although these are more often felt in the heart than the gut.
The third brain - the neocortex ("new" cortex) - is something we share with the higher apes, although ours is a bit more sophisticated. Resting over the limbic brain (which is, in turn, atop the reptilian brain), our neocortex is where we process abstract thought, words and symbols, logic and time." [emphasis added]
The neocortex is divided into two hemispheres.
Your right brain operates in a non-linear, pre-verbal way that "thinks" in symbols and pictures. It works in conjunction with your reptile brain to form your intuitive abilities. It loves ritual and symbolism. Your hunches, your "aha" moments, your precognitive dreams, premonitions, ability to view remote scenes and other "psychic" abilities originate here, and are normal functions of the human brain that have been suppressed in our culture so that they are limited to the realm of the priesthood. A person in touch with these abilities is hard to control with laws or commandments and will trust their own intuition over any authority. One function of religion has been to direct and control these abilities toward a common goal. The tricky part is in choosing that goal. Knowing who made the choice and why is important. We'll talk about that in Part III.
Your left brain is where you “think
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I'm waiting to see what happens this week...
I want to see Al Gore's speech and see what the Dems do after.
Just to clarify, the section you quoted is Thom Hartmann speaking.
"Lost in the drama" is a good way to put it. The drama short circuits the logic, and Leftys love logic. We have to learn to deal with it, though.
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I am mulling this part of your series, concluding with:
Framing is the key.
We have to learn to speak lizard/limbic/logic if we want to win.
And comparing it with:
SPIRAL DYNAMICS AND THE WAVES OF EXISTENCE
The first six levels are "subsistence levels" marked by "first-tier thinking." Then there occurs a revolutionary shift in consciousness: the emergence of "being levels" and "second-tier thinking," of which there are two major waves. Here is a brief description of all eight waves, the percentage of the world population at each wave, and the percentage of social power held by each.
See http://www.chooseyourlife.com/ml/docs/SpiralDynamics.htm
(And learning how to do blockquotes too -- so we'll see if that works.
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I see and share the frustration with not being able to effectively communicate with some types of people. But then I wonder what can be forced and what is a matter of evolution.
Nance
You'll like part III
Nance-
I don't think anything can be forced, but I do think that evolution is more a matter of experience and education than anything else. I'm interested to see what you make of Kohlberg's stages of ethical development.
The link you gave to Ken Wilbur's spiral dynamics seems very similar to the work of Timothy Leary and Robert Anton Wilson. Have you ever read Prometheus Rising?
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No, I haven't read Prometheus Rising. Should I add it to the long list of books I need to get to? 
Looking forward to Part III.
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Re: How to talk to a (Fundamentalist) Christian Part II
[quote=Morgaine Swann]The simple reality is that issues framed in intellect will never trump issues framed in emotions. And to have maximum power, those emotions must include the limbic brain feelings of hope and idealism as well as the reptilian brain instincts for survival and safety. [emphasis added]
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I was talking to Mark about a post I am writing about the netroots and he said that what he hates most about politics is that we're --and I quote-- caught in the drama.
Of course, I jumped into him like a flea on a dog : WTF! What drama, this is life and death! Blah blah blech.
Well, I kind of think the fucker is right.
I hate it when he is right.
He was basically defending that by all means Alito is going to win. We, the activists on the net and off, have nothing to do with that decision. His point is that the Republicans have learned to be actors in the histrionic sense of the word and we, the country, just react to their performance. We are 'lost in the drama'; we are just spectators to their reality show.
I think I have to stop chewing on this one because, I am almost convinced he is right. Not quite, but still ... it's hard to be me when I live with such and apolitical human being.
On the other hand, isn't it weird that in the years of Republican hegemony reality shows are all the rage?