Cindy Sheehan gives up
excerpted from cnn.com:
here's the link to the story: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/28/sheehan/index.html
[EDITOR'S NOTE: The Quoted text was removed for two reasons: a.) too much text was directly quoted from a commercial site (CNN.com) and b.) no link was provided to that commercial site. The former can get us into serious copyright problems and it is standard procedure on blogs to quote only a few paragraphs of text directly from other sites to avoid potential copyright issues. The exact number of paragraphs that are "allowable" varies, but quoting the vast majority of someone else's work from a copyrighted site is always considered unacceptable. Not providing a link to the site you quote is considered both rude and can make people suspicious about your quote. We want people to know where our writers are quoting from so we encourage such links...unless we know a commercial site uses our work without a link. It is ALWAYS safer and more polite to provide the link. I encourage the author to rewrite the diary in a way that complies with the rules of this site and the standard blog protcedures when quoting others. I would like to note that there was no particular problem I had with the content of the diary, merely the quote of an extensive block of another person's work without so much as a link. There are legal issues here!]
I have admired Cindy Sheehan's dedication/devotion to the anti-war effort and am saddened to see that she is throwing in the towel. She is a remarkable woman whom many of us have had the opportunity to meet and/or participate in rallies and events she attended. This happens to a lot of activists who put their heart and soul into the cause and then don't see results at the end of the day. You start wondering if the battle was worth fighting. You ask, "when do I see something for all this effort?", "when do we win?"
It sounds like maybe Cindy is just burned out. Maybe after she goes home for a while and chills out, she'll be back. I hope so anyway.
(okay I edited it)
[Editor's note: the author edited somewhat, for which I thank him. But he still quoted too much of another person's work and provided no link. The standard here is to quote a few paragraphs and linking to the rest so people can read more. You can also paraphrase parts if need be, but the link is critical.]
Open Thread | Activism
SHE(ehan)EESH!
Just another in a long line of reactions so at odds with my own, that we might as well be from different planets -- your only problem is that even SHE(ehan) has grown too disillusioned with party politics to think it cares about (or serves well) what real, regular, reasonable citizens need, want and expect from government and culture?? Seriously??
JJ you are overreacting
(Okay I edited the piece)
JJ I think you are overreacting. I didn't say that my only problem with her decision was Cindy's disillusionment. Although big deal even if it was my only problem. Stop looking for things to disagree on. We agree on this. All I said was, based on things she has said, I don't think she'd run for Congress as a Democrat. Which would significantly reduce her chances of winning.
But I do take issue with your implication that the members of the two major parties are not "real regular reasonable citizens" That would be a ridiculous thing to think. Participating in one of the two major political parties doesn't make you out of touch. Why does everyone have to think THEY are more regular, more reasonable, more real than the next person? Maybe this was part of Cindy Sheehan's problem. She could have, through all this activism, started to have a really narrow view of what was "real" and "regular" Which means maybe some time off for her isn't a bad thing. But I hope she comes back.
No
That is not the implication at all. People who attend public schools are real, regular folks but they aren't getting their needs met by the system they are participating in. The SYSTEM is broken, for all the real, regular people and no matter how individuals try to cope, it will continue to deal mainly with the needs of those employed in it, not those paying for it supposedly as "self-governance."
The Logic of Failure
This morning my expert public policy eye spots a right answer in the New York Times business news, real analysis and insight for all those of us who puzzle over public schools and party politics, religious wars, et cetera and just can't understand why we keep doing all the wrong things wronger, regressing rather than progressing.
"Overbooking, Bumped Fliers and No Plan B"
by Jeff Bailey
The whole story is about aggressive and insulated data analysts crunching endless numbers to create operational models that are statistically attractive to their own part of the "enterprise" but unfit for human consumption, thereby infuriating regular, responsible people just trying to participate in the system in good faith, in their own private, statistically insignificant roles.
Necessity being the mother of invention, savvy front line folks experiencing the fallout have to cope somehow. They create practical workarounds at their own lowly level that seem to compensate the consumer reasonably well and thus protect the system from its own longterm self-inflicted wounds. But that in turn makes the analysts redouble insistence on THEIR strategies, further infuriating users and further hurting the systems's credibility, requiring even more creative counterprogramming and loss of respect from the people caught up in it all. More and more regular people wise up to the system's escalating adversarial shortcomings, thus making it all even worse. Finally the system becomes neither workable nor fixable at any level . . Dörner's Logic of Failure.
"Stuck in a quagmire . . ."
"Scant credbility. . ."
"People view [it] as not on the up-and-up"
. . .what psychologist Dietrich Dörner shows, is that the problem lies not in the world, but in our own world-view . . .most of us are too simpleminded, especially when it comes to anticipating future trends or interactive processes. We don't think about the implications and consequences of what we want, or want to do, with results that come back to haunt us.
Nevertheless, and contrary to many current claims, Dörner also argues that there is no secret formula or mental trick . . . to overcome complacency or over-confidence. The world always has been very complex, but as the ambition and scale of our intentions has increased in modern times, the malevolent implications and consequences of our simple-mindedness becomes more and more frequent and compelling. . .
This is a book that public policymakers, politicians, planners, and the general public desperately need to read. We are squandering our environmental capital and undermining our social capital because we are trying to do things, or avoid doing things, that cannot be sustained for very much longer. . .
Remember that Kansas town that got wiped off the map by a giant tornado? Its mayor just quit, said he would not lead the rebuilding effort, wasn’t temperamentally suited to that kind of system work with competing ideas about what to do and how to do it. The town council said oh, don’t quit, we’ll just consider that you’re on sabbatical to get your own family squared away and then maybe you’ll come back and lead us. We’ll just wait.
HUH? But he is leading you, by example!
He’s doing a couple of smart, real, practical things. He has his priorities in order (family first) and he knows that not everyone is equally good at every task, “entitled†to it by system formula or not. And he knows that politics and government do not constitute leadership; it’s service.
None of which is to say that individuals against the big bad system are always right, or even a better alternative for the public than government. Individuals can be our best hope when they are critical-thinking individuals, and public policy can be progressive and productive. Both are possible and desirable. I'm not anti-government or anti-system or anti-institutional. I'm certainly not anti-peace or anti-mom! 
But I am anti-Logic of Failure.
I know we have huge problems in the world, tornadic activity is tearing us apart all over the place. I am working toward finding solutions with the same fervor that drives most progressives. But the random, flailing, emotional-casuality, self-destructive, bathos-wallowing Logic of Cindy Sheehan is no less acceptable as The Right Answer than most of the rest of what passes for political discourse and analysis.
fair use
But mole fyi, I did attribute the piece to cnn.com and the piece has no author listed. why? because *they* probably got it from AP themselves. I believe no plagiarism exists therefore if I had left the article up in whole, also because the federal copyright laws do have "fair use" stipulations. If something is re-printed for educational purposes and not for profit, and the effect of the use on the potential market value for or value of the copyrighted work is minimal, then it is considered fair use.
I wasn't trying to steal cnn's copyrighted words. I was re-transmitting them here for people who might have an education purpose in seeing them. Just as they retransmitted AP's words. In other words, it wasn't plagiarism so far as I can tell, not of CNN, or AP, or Cindy Sheehan (I mean I did reprint portions of her copyright letter within the article right?) Since I specifically said "cnn.com", why would they have a problem with it? I publicized their site!
Change it NOW!!!
As an editor I am TELLING you our policy. It is also the pretty STANDARD POLICY on most blogs. If you don't change it damned soon I will personally delete the quoted text.
Furthermore, I said it is commonly accepted practice to link to the people you quote. That smooths over many problems and is considered polite. Again if you don't do it, I will delete the quoted text.
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Okay I put the link
Okay I put the link in the article. But I would suggest that you specify how many paragraphs or what percentage of a story may be reposted without it being considered a rules violation. Otherwise the editors might risk opening themselves to criticism for selective enforcement of the rules (i.e. rules that can be more broadly enforced with some than others purely out of convenience) I reposted the same original blog entry on other sites without having any problem with the editors. Room Eight has it on the front page. Why must this site have stricter rules than others?
Well
Maybe we have already discussed it with lawyers BEFORE having a problem.
This is all a huge gray area. There are no hard and fast rules. But there are lawsuits and potential lawsuits. People get sued for improper use of other people's material. We have no intention of having this happen to us. We want to set of an example of how to do things properly without having to be a legal test case.
In general, a clear attempt to give full credit (which you did), providing a link (hence sending the people whose material you are using some traffic) and making a clear effort to just use brief excerpts and urging readers to get more info from the original site all usually placate anyone who might be protective of their material. Quoting material from another site in its entirety WITHOUT FULL PERMISSION and without any link is generally frowned upon on any site I tend to blog on. On the other hand, material from organizations that are trying to get their word out as widely as possible can be quoted more extensively, though I always still provide a link if I can.
Also, I will remind you once more, on any site you post the publisher and editors have final word. Arguing is poor form at best.
Ugh.
Correct, there are no hard and fast rules; rule of thumb is two or three paragraphs.
I'd also suggest that Wallner does not belong either on the front page, and that in a case like this, you do what I do, which is simply edit as necessary. Wallner doesn't understand that his ability to release unrestrained blather on other people's sites in exactly the manner he sees fit is not some sacrosanct constitutional right.
Ugh, Wallnerisms; how distasteful.
Sheehan and Dorner
JJ, so are you saying Cindy Sheehan was too overconfident, and is now wallowing in self-pity and feeling sorry for herself, not seeing things rationally and good riddance to her?
I think individuals, the right individuals, can make a huge difference, and she was making a difference. So it is sad that she feels defeated. Political change doesn't happen without optimists and dreamers. You have to believe you can make the change.
I think Dietrich Dorner wants people to think and behave like machines, to take the human emotion out of the equation. The world doesn't work that way.
Cindy Sheehan was a mother whose son was killed in an unjust war. She can't be as detached and organized in her cognitive responses as Dorner thinks is ideal. What she was doing was an emotional response to a tragedy. She was not capable of approaching these issues mechanically and methodically, and accepting adverse outcomes, as Dorner would like. She's a human being.
Huh?
Not saying any of that, or antyhing LIKE that, nor does Dr. Dörner. (He's a internationally known cognitive psychologist, you know, not some mechanic or accountant.) Have you actually read his book? Or did you at least get the chance to read the blog essay you inspired me to flesh out for the front page, in which I hope I've given more nuanced meanings than this? 
And btw, thinking and feeling have been integrated -- no more Spinozan-Cartesian dichotomy to debate! -- or so the NYT reported a few years back, let me know if I need to dig out that article.
This was already handy though:
Ever thought much about the relationship between thought and language? Lewis Carroll, logician and fairy tale writer, apparently did. He wrote in Through the Looking Glass:
"When I say a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master -- that's all."
So if I were to comment that Sheehan's public persona to date puts the psycho- in psycho-logical, it would indeed be insulting and too glib by half, and while I might honestly mean it in one way (she is pretty "out there" to my way of thinking) it wouldn't capture much else that I find more important to say, and it certainly wouldn't mean I wanted her to go to the other extreme, become a machine instead.
I construct my arguments and choose my language to match all my thoughts and meanings, and when what I mean isn't simple --is it ever? ;-)-- then I choose nuanced words to mean several things at once, or to different audiences, and in the proportions I find satisfying. I expect the same thing from those I bother to read and argue with, or else I don't (bother.)
I wish all political commentators and activists would read Diane F. Halpern's Rules for Clear Communication and then follow them! There are six, and they are spot-on.
She discusses words and their meaning, how we use analogies, context and contrast, and includes two sections that may particularly interest politically active homeschooling parents: "Definitions and Control of Thought" followed by "The Power of Labels and Categories."
And her treatment of Emotional Language and Name Calling may benefit any adult living in today's world, as could the subsection on " leading questions and marked words." For example, she shows how an identical program description may be accepted or rejected depending on whether the argument presented focuses on gains or losses.
"It is clear," she writes, "that a loss is more negative than a comparable gain is positive."
And connections between the logical and the psychological are introduced with this: "The trick of course is to reason well. It isn't easy, and it isn't automatic."
And like the joke about psychologists trying to change a light bulb, it can be done only if the object of all their hard work and attention really WANTS to change.
Critical thinking is why public schools universally require algebra, you know. It's supposed to fashion a whole society of logical thinkers, to run all our systems successfully. It's failing at that purpose, of course, but it has a certain simplistic gut-level appeal and it's well-intended -- just like Cindy Sheehan.
Quick and Pithy
If you haven't time for his book, check out "Risk and Reason" online. The introductory chapter, "Magnitudes, Tradeoffs, and Tools" is short and gives very human applications for Dorner's research and theories -- some environmental regulation cases, for example, that CK readers might especially appreciate.
The interesting thing to me
The interesting thing to me -- on page 6 of this 12-page essay -- is the struggle between the corn lobby and the oil lobby.
The pols made decisions based on input from these lobbies.
Pushed by environmentalists and, no doubt, some regular people writing in.
But in the cost-benefit balancing that the author pushes, the lining of political pockets is not taken into consideration.
Whether outright graft or promises or threats of campaign support, decisions may be made with deep critical thinking, taking into consideration all sorts of costs and benefits -- some that don't have anything to do with us or the problem at hand but are the ultimate basis for decisions.
Nance
Hey Isn't There a Blog
from a midwestern homeschool mom called "Corn and Oil"??
"And" instead of corn VERSUS oil to buy and sell government decisions. Wonder how good that blog is at critical evaluation and synthesis of such complex connections?
Hmmm, here it is -- not very Dorner-like, too literalist and simplistic about what it takes to cultivate liberty as a sustainable crop in today's culture. But it does have a great "corn and oil" quote from Mark Twain in the masthead that imo goes in a third direction, in a pattern that fits this topic perfectly: corn AND oil as prime tools for public bribery! 
"The teacher reminded us that Rome’s liberties were not auctioned off in a day, but were bought slowly, gradually, furtively, little by little; first with a little corn and oil for the exceedingly poor and wretched, later with corn and oil for voters who were not quite so poor, later still with corn and oil for pretty much every man that had a vote to sell— exactly our own history over again."
Yes! And . . .
because the human mind is hardwired to make patterns with whatever is available, things seem to make sense to us no matter how limited our view of the whole universe of actual factors.
To me that's what science and religion (and poetry) have in common, and why we have to think so clearly about their differences.
I once experienced this phenomenon firsthand as a public schools crisis manager, where among many bizarre and interconnected factors and bits of "information", I had to figure out whether it meant anything that the female accuser I knew to be lying (or wrong at least) and the female assistant DA pressing her sexual assault case against our black male elementary school principal, knew each other personally as members of the local Mothers of Twins club!
(It didn't -- the truth turned out to be even stranger once we unraveled it all.)
But I couldn't get it out of my mind, it kept haunting me that once I HAD this bit of weird info, it just had to mean something and surely I was smart enough to fit it into my theory of the case somehow . . .
The Kind Of Minds We NEED
are not the Sheehan-Imus-Oprah-whoever public emotion ringmasters. And no one is suggesting machines or even pure math-science-logic in human form can solve our complex problems. I believe in and try to share Harvard cognitive psychologist Howard Gardner's "Five Minds the World Needs Now" wherever I can:
My own reflections suggest that in the future, we need to cultivate five kinds of minds if we want to be successful as a nation and, more important, as a world. Those minds include:
. A disciplined mind, that can think well and appropriately in the major disciplines;
. A synthesizing mind, that can sift through a large amount of information, decide what is important, and put it together in ways that make sense for oneself and for others;
. A creative mind, that can raise new questions, come up with novel solutions, think outside the box;
. A respectful mind, that honors the differences among individuals and groups, and tries to understand them and work productively with them; and
. An ethical mind, that thinks, beyond selfish interests, about the kind of worker one aspires to be, and the kind of citizen that one should be.
Dorner's minds
We have those five minds. We have a great representation of different minds in our society.
Gardner's Minds
(not Dorner's, though I think they dovetail well) --
Gardner was writing for education policy thinkers in this piece, what School could be concentrating on for the next generation. But say you are right and we have all those kinds of minds now already well-represented in society. How well represented are they among political candidates, and how well are they served by our political processes?
In other words, do we attract possessors of such minds into the electoral arena or do we drive them away while attracting hordes of a different kind, ruthless or glib, competitive to a fault, adversarial or even megalomaniacal minds instead? Soundbite simplistic and shameless about other people's money look like the main kinds of minds that succeed in our decaying system to me --
































Or she could run for office
Or she could run for office. Cindy Sheehan has a high enough profile that she might make a fine candidate for congress or something. The problem is she seems so disillusioned with the Democratic Party that she probably wouldn't want to run on that line.